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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.06.26 18:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Ghoest
Ill watch what you do not what you say.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 18:49:00 -
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why are all the overly positive responses in this thread made by suspiceous looking alts?
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Posted - 2011.06.26 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie
At least a tiny tiny tiny step into the right direction.
Are you familiar with the phrase 'one step forward, two steps back' ?
i to ~want to believe~ but their obviously not addressing the question of non-vanity items. they beat around the bush with the 'gold ammo' comment.
at least we know those of us that cancelled our subs were joined by others. this blog is a direct reaction to us speaking with our walles
too little ccp. you have to EARN my trust back if you want me to resub ever again. and that will require assurances you obviously won't make.
you and I both know the business decision has been made and your not going back. you're just trying to be very careful not to let the frogs realize the water will soon be boiling
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
Edited by: Ranger 1 on 26/06/2011 19:32:11
Gentlemen, we already knew that Soundwave was requested by CCP to write his article from a Gordon Gekko point of view.
We already knew that the points list in the Fearless edition were put in purposefully to provoke discussion and reinforce where the implementation of MT could go wrong if greed overtook reason.
We already knew that the copy that was originally leaked had been edited, and taken completely out of context.
You simply chose not to hear it.
And yet you keep referring to it as "proof" that they have a plan in place to do so, despite a direct refutation.
You, the EVE Online community, have been massively trolled.
And you couldn't have made it easier.
whew that's a relief
that means they can just simply say "it's all not true, we'll never destroy the game backbone (the market) by allowing non-vanity items in the aurum store"
right?
so why haven't they?
(these are what we call rhetorical questions. if the answers aren't painfully obvious to you you are as deluded as R1 here.)
looks like i'm ~never resubbing~
enough of us do it they'll stop just talking? i doubt it. upper management is the same wherever you go. it might as well already be in the game.
o7 eve
you will be missed.
the vision was beautiful until the green eyed moster decided to destroy it.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Dibble Dabble
Originally by: Salco Masir
There is no thrust atm. -2 subs. I'll watch your actions!
Please quit. You want be missed. Some like MT, some dont, shame your a dumb fool who cant understand that MT is optional.
Now go, quit and dont come back.
Yeah
MT for nonvanity items won't completely destroy the market right?
ur so smart
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
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there are no and never have been plans to sell "gold ammo" for Aurum
See you later, oh easily manipulated one.
Pot: "Hey kettle. U R Black."
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: RougeOperator
They way he wrote no gold ammo does little in the way of taking MTs off the table for real goods.
He is being a sneaky using literal language to parse his way out of this.
Later on when they sell ammo, he can say, But its not gold ammo right guys? TROLLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Or maybe its a remap, or more slots to store corp fits, or training boosters.
No guys Ranger 1 says it explains everything and you're being foolish and manipulated. Why can't you see the wisdom in his words?
Seriously, dev blog couldn't have been more clear. He wasn't in any way beating around the bush. Why are u so easily manipulated?
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
Originally by: Ranger 1
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there are no and never have been plans to sell "gold ammo" for Aurum
See you later, oh easily manipulated one.
Pot: "Hey kettle. U R Black."
Nope, just smarter and more mature than you.
Don't you have a rage quit to attend to...
You're so smart and mature. Your comments couldn't just as easily apply to you as those you condemn.
I'm resubbing now and calling all my friends so they do the same. Thanks for bringing us into the light. We were all being so silly about this. You are in no way dumb.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Ranger 1
Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia
Yeah
MT for nonvanity items won't completely destroy the market right?
Quote:
there are no and never have been plans to sell "gold ammo" for Aurum
Obtuse much?
He's not arguing the blog ù he's arguing that the viewpoint of "MT is optional" is insanely narrowminded and completely ignores the impact MT can have on a market such as EVE's.
àalso, there is a large amount of room for evasion between "gold ammo" and "non-vanity items", so he'd have a point regardless.
dude don't be immature. Ranger 1 is trying to explain this to us if we would just listen to his smarter more mature viewpoints.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Shemmy
I feel sorry for Zulu, I'm pretty sure he's going to be "sacrificed" when this finally reaches a resolution (if not before) and my feeling is it's not his fault.
I do agree with this.
No matter how influential or how high up the food chain one is as a dev, they have bosses that have expectations.
Managment dictates the course a company takes. I can't even completely condemn Zulu for his own remarks.... as there are most definitely things he simply can not say and things he is being told to say.
I hope people that are concerned about this and voicing their opinions understand that. As a rather critical person myself, I hope that the devs realize that these are not personal attacks on them, but attacks on CCP policy and business decisions. People like Zulu i think get stuck in the middle....not fair, but that is their job.
Its a very small gray area and the detach between one and the other isn't always easy to distinguish. Especially when we know how much most of the dev team really and truely care about the game and the company. Thus the harsh remarks in the first dev blog which I can completely understand and don't even think an apology was required for.
I've played this game for 7 years, I do not think I'm being unreasonable nor do I think our fears are unfounded. It's not uncommon for a company to go from milking their cow to slaughtering for market. I've watched many companies do this, gaming and otherwise, and I think CCP is on the precipice.
It's not anything CCP has said, it's what they haven't said. And that is almost certainly intentional and strategic.
And that is why I will not resub without an extraordinary display sufficient enough to both gain my trust back and leave me confident that they are not driving down a road that changes the fundamentals of this game.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
I dont know what that means to you, but to me that says, there will be no pay to win, there will be no game altering items.
Why leave room for interpretation when you can just as easily leave no room for interpretation?
The answer to that is the very reason people are unsubscribing. If the blog had been written by an idiot or offhand among a slew of remarks I'd not really pay it much attention.
That it is the entiretly of CCPs official statement on the subject in the face of so many questions is telling. To assume it's not intentionally vague is just not logical.
The fact they feel the need to be strategically simple in their remarks is concerning.
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Posted - 2011.06.27 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
u a further understanding of what it is then there are no and never have been plans to sell "gold ammo" for Aurum.
HOW COULD THIS BE ANY MORE CLEAR???
lol
Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
That practically says Aurum will be for vanity items only.
lololololol
u be trippin or trollin?
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